17:5Meaning
Absalom requests a second opinion Absalom orders that Hushai the Archite be called in. His stated goal is to “hear likewise what he says,” implying a deliberate comparison between Ahithophel’s counsel and Hushai’s.
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Book
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Structure
Historical Setting
2 Samuel 17:5-7
Absalom calls for Hushai, summarizes Ahithophel’s advice, and prompts a direct evaluation that opens room for an alternative strategy.
Meaning in context
Absalom calls for Hushai, summarizes Ahithophel’s advice, and prompts a direct evaluation that opens room for an alternative strategy.
Section 2 of 7
Absalom invites Hushai's second opinion
Absalom calls for Hushai, summarizes Ahithophel’s advice, and prompts a direct evaluation that opens room for an alternative strategy.
Movement
The throne of David
Artifact
Davidic throne and covenant
Biblical Timeline
Kingdom
2 Samuel context: 1000 BC - 586 BC
Biblical Timeline
Kingdom
2 Samuel context
Kingdom / 1000 BC - 586 BC
2 Samuel context is set in the kingdom period, where Israel's monarchy from David and Solomon to exile.
Scripture Text
Thesis
Absalom calls for Hushai, summarizes Ahithophel’s advice, and prompts a direct evaluation that opens room for an alternative strategy.
Verse by Verse
Absalom requests a second opinion Absalom orders that Hushai the Archite be called in. His stated goal is to “hear likewise what he says,” implying a deliberate comparison between Ahithophel’s counsel and Hushai’s.
Absalom summarizes Ahithophel and invites agreement or alternative When Hushai arrives, Absalom reports that Ahithophel has already spoken “after this manner,” then asks a direct decision question: should they act according to Ahithophel’s words? If not, Hushai is told to speak up—meaning he is given permission (and pressure) to offer a different plan.
Hushai’s immediate evaluation Hushai responds with a clear negative assessment. He says the counsel Ahithophel has given “this time” is not good, marking it as unsuitable in the present situation rather than offering details yet.
Literary Context
This scene sits inside the larger narrative of Absalom’s revolt against David, where competing strategies and loyalties shape the outcome (compare 2 Samuel 15:31 and 2 Samuel 16:23). Ahithophel is presented as a highly regarded counselor, so his plan carries weight. Yet Absalom’s request for “likewise” hearing Hushai shows the leadership circle is not settled, and the story slows down to show how decisions are made in the rebel court. These verses set up a head-to-head contrast between two counselors before the plan is acted on.
Historical Context
The passage reflects a monarchic court setting in ancient Israel, where kings and claimants relied on advisors to shape military and political choices (see 2 Samuel 17:1–4). Absalom is functioning as a rival ruler with a court, access to notable officials, and the ability to summon trusted figures. Counsel in such settings is not merely private opinion; it becomes a practical guide for troop movements, timing, and public perception. The mention of “Hushai the Archite” signals a known person with a home-region identity, implying established networks of allegiance and reputation.
Theological Significance
Questions
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These verses show Absalom acting like a ruler with a functioning court: he can summon advisors, hear competing counsel, and decide what action to take. The text is explicit that Absalom wants to hear Hushai “likewise” (in addition to Ahithophel), and that he puts the question plainly: should they follow Ahithophel’s plan or not.
The scene also underscores how much weight “counsel” carries in this story-world. Advice is not abstract wisdom; it aims at immediate political and military decisions in the middle of a rebellion.
What Absalom’s “likewise” implies. Some read it as a genuine attempt at confirmation: Absalom is inclined toward Ahithophel’s plan but wants reassurance from another respected voice. Others read it as deliberate comparison: Absalom keeps options open, perhaps because he is uncertain or because the court expects more than one opinion.
How to take “after this manner.” Some think Absalom gave Hushai an accurate summary of Ahithophel’s counsel. Others think it signals only a rough report (“something like this”), leaving room for misunderstanding or selective framing.
What “this time” means in Hushai’s critique. Many understand Hushai to be saying Ahithophel’s advice is usually strong, but in the present situation it is a bad fit. Others take it more simply as a pointed rejection of the specific proposal just offered, without implying anything broader about Ahithophel.
Why the disagreement exists The wording is brief and flexible: “likewise,” “after this manner,” and “this time” can each be heard in more than one natural way. The passage gives Hushai’s evaluation but does not yet give his reasons (those come later), so readers infer motive and nuance from minimal signals.
What this passage clearly contributes It sets up the decision point in Absalom’s court: a highly regarded plan has been offered, a second counselor is brought in, and that counselor immediately judges the plan unsuitable “this time.” The narrative invites attention to how leadership choices are mediated through advisors and how timing and situation can be central to whether a plan is “good,” even when it comes from an esteemed source (compare the larger tension around counsel in 2 Samuel 16:23 and 2 Samuel 17:1–4).
said (way·yō·mer)